Timaeus: How thankful I am, Socrates, that I have arrived at
last, and, like a weary traveller after a long journey, may be at rest!
And I pray the being who always was of old, and has now been by me revealed,
to grant that my words may endure in so far as they have been spoken truly
and acceptably to him; but if unintentionally I have said anything wrong,
I pray that he will impose upon me a just retribution, and the just retribution
of him who errs is that he should be set right. Wishing, then, to speak
truly in future concerning the generation of the gods, I pray him to give
me knowledge, which of all medicines is the most perfect and best. And
now having offered my prayer I deliver up the argument to Critias, who
is to speak next according to our agreement.
Critias: And I, Timaeus, accept the trust, and as you at first
said that you were going to speak of high matters, and begged that some
forbearance might be shown to you, I too ask the same or greater forbearance
for what I am about to say. And although I very well know that my request
may appear to be somewhat and discourteous, I must make it nevertheless.
For will any man of sense deny that you have spoken well?
I can only attempt to show that I ought to have more indulgence than
you, because my theme is more difficult; and I shall argue that to seem
to speak well of the gods to men is far easier than to speak well of men
to men: for the inexperience and utter ignorance of his hearers about any
subject is a great assistance to him who has to speak of it, and we know
how ignorant we are concerning the gods. But I should like to make my meaning
clearer, if Timaeus, you will follow me. All that is said by any of us
can only be imitation and representation. For if we consider the likenesses
which painters make of bodies divine and heavenly, and the different degrees
of gratification with which the eye of the spectator receives them, we
shall see that we are satisfied with the artist who is able in any degree
to imitate the earth and its mountains, and the rivers, and the woods,
and the universe, and the things that are and move therein, and further,
that knowing nothing precise about such matters, we do not examine or analyze
the painting; all that is required is a sort of indistinct and deceptive
mode of shadowing them forth.
But when a person endeavours to paint the human form we are quick at
finding out defects, and our familiar knowledge makes us severe judges
of any one who does not render every point of similarity. And we may observe
the same thing to happen in discourse; we are satisfied with a picture
of divine and heavenly things which has very little likeness to them; but
we are more precise in our criticism of mortal and human things. Wherefore
if at the moment of speaking I cannot suitably express my meaning, you
must excuse me, considering that to form approved likenesses of human things
is the reverse of easy. This is what I want to suggest to you, and at the
same time to beg, Socrates, that I may have not less, but more indulgence
conceded to me in what I am about to say. Which favour, if I am right in
asking, I hope that you will be ready to grant.
Socrates: Certainly, Critias, we will grant your request, and
we will grant the same by anticipation to Hermocrates, as well as to you
and Timaeus; for I have no doubt that when his turn comes a little while
hence, he will make the same request which you have made. In order, then,
that he may provide himself with a fresh beginning, and not be compelled
to say the same things over again, let him understand that the indulgence
is already extended by anticipation to him. And now, friend Critias, I
will announce to you the judgment of the theatre. They are of opinion that
the last performer was wonderfully successful, and that you will need a
great deal of indulgence before you will be able to take his place.
Hermocrates: The warning, Socrates, which you have addressed
to him, I must also take to myself. But remember, Critias, that faint heart
never yet raised a trophy; and therefore you must go and attack the argument
like a man. First invoke Apollo and the Muses, and then let us hear you
sound the praises and show forth the virtues of your ancient citizens.
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